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Calling pics of naked kids porn 'a huge leap'

7/07/2008 5:09:00 PM
ACT Chief Minister Jon Stanhope says he is deeply concerned if a serious and respected art magazine like Art Monthly can't discuss the issue of photographing naked children.

There were classifications and laws available to deal with pornographic matters and they should be used if there was a problem with pictures, he said.

This month's edition of Art Monthly used a picture of a naked six-year-old girl on the cover in protest against the treatment of artist Bill Henson.

Angered by the "hysteria" over Henson's pictures of a 13-year-old girl, the magazine also featured a number of similar images inside.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said he could not stand such artwork and believed the photographs were a step in the wrong direction.

"Not every photograph of a naked child, or a naked young person or a naked person is pornographic," Mr Stanhope told ABC Radio.

"I haven't seen it but that's a huge leap to suggest that a photograph of a young child is inherently pornographic if it's displayed publicly.

"That's a concept that causes me enormous difficulty.

"If this particular image were offensive, were pornographic, then we deal with it either through the criminal law or through the classifications systems that we have in place.

"The bottom line position in an absolutist sense is that, alright, we ban all nude photographs of all children in every circumstance.

"I think that's an extreme position."

Mr Stanhope said Art Monthly, which attracted funding from the ACT and commonwealth governments, was possibly the most reputable magazine devoted to critiquing the arts and engendering debate within the arts in Australia.

"I have to say it's a magazine with an enormous reputation that I've always been prepared to support," he said.

"This is a most difficult and fraught issue - the need to ensure that we protect absolutely our children from exploitation.

"But I think, in the context of this debate, a debate that has been very controversial and very difficult, if a reputable magazine, a serious magazine devoted to art criticism and a discussion of the arts, can't discuss this openly, then I find that very, very difficult."

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This is just another example of Mr Stanhope being so out of touch with the people. He makes a judgement on something he has not even seen, a judgement so vastly different to so many parents who have seen it. We are all warned not to put naked pictures of our own children on the internet for fear that someone with bad intentions may see it. Yet people calling themselves artists think it is perfectly fine to publicly display naked pictures in the name of art. Something is very very wrong here and it's not the feelings of parents. Art Monthly, if you want to protest about the treatment of one of your own by all means do. But don't you dare use an innocent child as your mascot.
Posted by Canberra Mum on 7/07/2008 1:59:14 PM
As a parent of a young girl, six year old in fact, I am deeply concerned at our elected chief minister's failure to recognise that the exploitation of a six year old at the behest of apparently responsible adults is clearly unacceptable. The editors of this publication should be ashamed for using a young girl to protest a point she could not possibly understand. Again we have gotten away from the fact that children of this age cannot make an informed decision regarding the consent to have their naked photo's displayed publicly. The argument of this girl simply being a "symbol" runs contrary to the rights every citizen, adult or child, in this country should expect. Mr Stanhope's opinion is not that of the larger community.
Posted by Harrison Voter on 7/07/2008 2:57:32 PM
It is not our perception that is the problem. The problem is that these artists are making nude photo's legally available to pedophiles! A child is a beautiful creature that is not disputed. Parent’s fears of allowing children to be viewed freely in this way is of very real emotional relevance.
Posted by katscars on 7/07/2008 3:20:22 PM
Reputable Schmeputable. Mr Stanhope in case you missed it the magazine did this deliberately - to counter 'hysteria'. It is there to provooke a response and in so doing has attempted to push the envelope even further. That it is 'reputable' has nothing to do with it. Last year a senior prosecutor did time for child porn. Labor MPs have done time for paedoophilia offences. Reputation and position in society DOES NOT put one above the law - no matter how much the dahling elites think so. For mine I think these 'artists' have lost touch with society, and seek to raise an issue as some pathetic attention getting exercise -- this is underscored here by my main point - this is a deliberate attempt to be provocative - and every time this happens, it makes the job of prosecuting kiddie porn offences even harder.
Posted by John Taylor on 7/07/2008 3:43:54 PM
I have never agreed with Mr Stanhope until now, if this sexually excites anyone they should be committed. Dead set I wouldn't even know about it if the press didn't blow it out of all proportion. This will probably be the best selling mag ever and I didn't know it existed.
Posted by Wothe on 7/07/2008 6:34:56 PM
Discussing is one thing but displaying nude pictures of children is another. I don't care that some people want this type of art, it does not make it right or palatable. The issue is we have a responsibility to protect - adults as well as kids. We don't let them buy alcohol till they are 18; we don't let them but smokes till they are 18; we won't let them vote till they are 18; why do we let them expose their naked flesh any earlier!! As for the adults, whilst lots say they find nothing sexual about these photographs, would they pose nude and like someone leering over their naked body because that person finds it sexually exciting? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; so is sexuality and I do not want someone with a bent toward sexual encounters with children, senselessly aroused by this, so call innocent art piece. Ask yourself what you would want to happen to somebody aroused by this type of 'art' and then exposing themselves or molesting YOUR child? What do you say, Mr Stanhope to someone who is aroused by this type or thing and then commits an offense?
Posted by Rabbit on 7/07/2008 6:38:42 PM
For a plitician who has so often relied on the dodgy link between cause and effect, to now turn around and query the relationship between kiddie porn and paedophiles just proves that Stanhope will even sacrifice children on the altar of his suspect left-leaning ideologies.
Posted by Mark on 7/07/2008 7:11:15 PM
While I find John Stanhope generally disagreeable, I (shuddering all the while) have to agree with him on this. Recently, my wife photographed our 4 week old daughter in the bath. Candidly, but discreet. Is it art, or pornograhy? Or, just a photo? While it is just possible that there may be someone somewhere that would regard the picture in some licentious sense, in ordinary community standards it is just a non-exploitive phototgraph of a child. Rather like my daughter I would really be upset if Kevin Rudd were ever to see it and say he couldn't stand it . . . we might just spit the dummy at his opinion.
Posted by tattymane on 8/07/2008 2:56:43 AM
This is the most innocent photo I have ever seen. The reactions to it is fundamentally sick and only shows that the hysteria and paranoia about the protection of children now is complete and uncritically approwed.
Posted by john on 11/07/2008 11:25:38 PM
I believe that these photo's should not be available and should not have been taken after all we are talking about a child who was only 6yrs old at the time and is clearling not old enough to make these desisions for herself. We all have shots of our babies in bath tubs but we don't allow them to be published do we. There is a difference between a candid shot of your own child and one which has puposely been posed and then advertised. A very sad world when we try to justify exploitation of a minor.
Posted by lotsokids on 15/07/2008 8:24:04 AM
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